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Wednesday, May 9, 2007

Who Owns Israel? [or Who Owns Palestine?]

It is so silly to say to Israel, “Give the Palestinians back their land.” How far back do we go to give it back??? There have been MANY OWNERS! Check this out.

[A word to Palestinians who may read this: I am not against you. I am for the TRUTH. Do you deserve a land in which to live and work, and raise your families? Do you deserve a peaceful homeland? Do you deserve to choose who governs you? Well, so do the Israelis, among whom live MANY ARABS and Muslims, living peacefully with the Jews. The question is, “Can you live peacefully?” Will you elect governments that have NOT PROMISED to drive Israel into the sea? If you do, I believe you will prosper like the state of Israel. If not, I guess you have determined your own destiny. I wish you peace and luck which are mainly in your hands. May you use them well!]

History of Israel [from Wikipedia on Israel]

1. Land of Israel - about 4000 years ago
2. Assyrian,
3. Babylonian,
4. Persian,
5. Greek,
6. Roman,
7. Byzantine,
8. (briefly) Sassanian rule,
9. Omayyads,
10. Abbasids,
11. Crusaders,
12. Kharezmians
13. Mongols,
14. Mamluks (1260-1516)
15. Ottoman Empire in 1517
16. In 1920, Palestine became a League of Nations mandate administered by Britain.
17. The UN General Assembly approved the 1947 UN Partition Plan dividing the territory into two states, with the Jewish area consisting of roughly 55% of the land, and the Arab area consisting of roughly 45%. David Ben-Gurion tentatively accepted the partition, while the Arab League rejected it.
18. The State of Israel was proclaimed on May 14, 1948, one day before the expiry of the Palestine Mandate. Israel was admitted as a member of the United Nations on May 11, 1949.
19. Syria, Jordan, and Egypt had been hinting at war[25] and Egypt expelled UN Peacekeeping Forces from the Gaza Strip. When Egypt violated prior treaties and closed the strategic Straits of Tiran to Israeli vessels, and began massing large amounts of tanks and aircraft on Israel’s borders, Israel deemed it a casus belli for pre-emptively attacking Egypt on June 5. In the ensuing Six-Day War between Israel and its Arab neighbors, Israel defeated the armies of three large Arab states and won a decisive victory over their air forces. Territorially, Israel conquered the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Sinai Peninsula, and Golan Heights. The Green Line of 1949 became the administrative boundary between Israel and the Occupied Territories. The Sinai was later returned to Egypt following the signing of a peace treaty.

During this whole history there has always been a large population of Jews. So who owns that small territory known as Israel?

Who do we give it back to? Seems fair to me if anyone gets it, it should be the first country established in the area or maybe the last. But they are the same! So I guess everything is okay.

Unless you want to give it back to the Canaanite-descendant you see. The Canaanites lived there but NO COUNTRY was established. -

Just imagine taking one particular country in Europe, of your choice, and starting to list the former owners before various wars. Imagine, if you will, a people claiming to be the last people to own that country even if at the time, it was NOT A COUNTRY, just a land. What reaction would the world have toward those claimants? So why should it be any different with the only current democratically-elected government in the Middle East today?

[A word to Palestinians who may read this: I am not against you. I am for the TRUTH. Do you deserve a land in which to live and work, and raise your families? Do you deserve a peaceful homeland? Do you deserve to choose who governs you? Well, so do the Israeli’s, among whom live MANY ARABS and Muslims, living peacefully with the Jews. The question is, “Can you live peacefully?” Will you elect governments that have NOT PROMISED to drive Israel into the sea? If you do, I believe you will prosper like the state of Israel. If not, I guess you have determined your own destiny. I wish you peace and luck which are mainly in your hands. May you use them well!}

Israel From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Judaism & Christianity; Two Peas: Different Pods

[There are Jews who are worried about Messianic Jews, Messianiacs of one description or another. This was written to them.]

Two kinds of Jewish 1-Ethnic Jews 2-Religiously Jewish There are Jews who are worried about Messianic Jews, Messianiacs of one description or another. This was written to them. Jews and Christians came from the same root. We worship the same God; Muslims do not. Allah was a moon god, chosen by Mohammed from among over 3oo Arabian gods. The main difference between Christians and Jews is that you believe the Messiah has yet to come and we believe he has come and will come again. The principles of Judaism are the basic principles of Christianity. Some of you - religious Jews observe the Torah; Christians observe the main Principles of the Torah whether so-called Messianic or not. Yeshua said, "Matthew 22:35-40 (NIV) 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[b] 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." Do you believe Jeremiah 31? Within it are these verses 31 "The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to [d] them, [e] " declares the LORD. 33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. Question: What IS the NEW covenant? Do you agree with all sects of Judaism? If you do not, then could you not say equally that the things you DISAGREE WITH are 'lies'? Would you say that this is a good description of the MAIN sects of Judaism? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_main_sects_of_Judaism Is this a fairly accurate portrayal of Judaic sects? http://judaism.about.com/library/uc/uc_sects_a.htm Were not the Zealots and Sicarii sects of Jewish believers? How about the Isunians, Karaites, Ananites, or the Malikites; and the Mishawites, Pharisees, Sadducees or Essenes, or Sabbatians, Beta Israelites or Kaballists? We will say nothing of Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist and Humanistic. In fact Christianity was considered to be a sect of Judaism until about the 4th century 300 something. I do not think Christians should go backward and become partly Jewish, but are not some of the sects of Judaism "partly" Jewish in their beliefs? The principles of Christianity are the same as the principles of Judaism. The rituals are different. One cannot say that of Muslims for those who used that misguided comparison. We don't worship a different God, we just think the Messiah has come. If you think about and study the various sects of Judaism, you may find that there is AS MUCH difference between Jews as between Jews and Christians. We who call ourselves true evangelical Christians love our Jewish heritage, we give credit to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob for preserving the principles of God given to Abraham. We also love Jewish people and respect their race as the people from where our faith came. We just listen to the teachings of a Rabbi different than yours, but who is to say that all of the Jews reading this are of the same Rabbinical belief? Do YOU have differences? WE need to work together to spread the truth of God. WE need to make others aware of the false ideas that Muslims give to the world. THEY are the danger! I wouldn't worry about what you call "lies", I would probably call differences. Does everyone have to agree in all the little rituals, beliefs, rabbinical teachings to be Jewish? Do you have to have a Jewish mother and a Jewish father, 100% Jewish to be considered Jewish? Jews were chosen by God. True Christians recognize that and are the best friends of the state of Israel. We SHOULD NOT be fighting among ourselves. There is a whole pile of "crap" lies out there much more serious than the Messianic one you are worried about. In fact I dare say that there are some of you, who have Jewish blood running in their veins that are much less "Jewish" than others? Perhaps even than me that has none. Who said, put 2 Jews in a room and you have 3 opinions. I am sure it was a Jewish person. I don't mean this as disrespectful, but put a Christian in that room and you may end up with 5 opinions! (:-) However true Christians MUST recognize as I do that our "rabbi" who we believe was the promised Messiah was Jewish. I often say that I work for a Jewish carpenter. We also love the fact that we can trace our principles back to Abraham and even to Adam and Eve. We are different in rituals and some beliefs, but the bedrock is the same. [I am not a Messianic Jew nor a Messianic Christian or a Judaic Messianic or a Judaic Christian, but I must recognize and give credit to my roots and the principles passed on through the courageous man Abraham who had NO book, no rituals to go by but just believed that God was talking to him. My question. Do you believe God is talking to you? I know he talks to me. ] Your friend and a friend of Israel forever, Charles

War on Gaza or Israel?

Cool Facts About Israel 2 - ABSOLUTELY AMAZING

New version. New music. We could all learn from Israel instead of hating it because of ignorance of the facts.

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